To all members
The detailed minutes of the AGM will be posted here soon but in the meantime there are a few important things that you should all be aware of.
- Roger Howell steps down as Chairman after a long period of service to the club
- Jeff Davies was voted on as the new Chairman
- Permit prices will remain the same for 2012
- The winners of the 200 Club monthly draw will in future be publicised on this Blog every month
- The Club Secretary is appealing to all members to support me in building on the success of this Blog and urges all members to become 'followers' and to contribute regularly to the posts and to provide me with frequent updates on river conditions, catches and other incidents of interest. Please also relay your stories from the river bank for all members to enjoy
I hope that this brief summary of the AGM will be helpful to those of you who were unable to attend. The full minutes will be loaded up as soon as Eifion passes them on to me. May I wish all of you a successful and enjoyable season.
Tight lines
kingfisher
Oh - I forgot to mention - we now have both banks of Crewel to fish!!!!!!!!
11 comments:
Glad to hear the news that all methods has been thrown out the window once again there is more to fishing than just the fly. I've fished many double banks before now with all methods on both banks what is the reasoning behind your selfish outlook on this new bit of river.So what happens when say Im fishing on the bad side of cruel pool!! and another on the good side of cruel pool!! u all say that we disturb ur fly fishing so what about u disturbing the worming and spinner methods seems to me as if its all about one method and we get what comes of bad weather.I have kids and all of them show a good interest in fishing on the Towy but there is only the railway brige that is safe for them the new bank down cruel would be a great addition for there safe fishing along the Towy banks. Its the youngsters we should be conditioning now for the futre of the river not only outsiders.I do alot of fly fishing aswell so dont think that im onesided, fly has the majority parts of the towy as it stands and i feel the new part and lower groins should be considered for all methods high or low water.
I am sorry to learn of your frustration resulting from members at the AGM voting unanimously in favour of designating the newly acquired bank of Crewel Pool 'fly only' when the marker post is visible! More importantly I am disappointed to learn that you apparently consider 'Visitor Members' as OUTSIDERS! The Club Secretary himself at the AGM reminded attendees that without the support of Visitor Members Llangadog Angling Limited probably wouldn't exist! As a long standing Visitor Member myself (an OUTSIDER in your terms) I have chosen to set up and administer this Blog for the good of ALL LAL members and I have never asked for any honorarium or recompense of any kind! May I suggest that your attitude of 'them' and 'us' doesn't bode well for the river or the club. An apology for this 'slip of the tongue' might be welcome?
I am also an (OUTSIDER) guest/visitor member, call us what you will. I have fished the river towy at Llangadog since 1988. It was great news about crewel pool. It was voted in unanimously fly only at the AGM. I agree with kingfishers comment that an appology to guest/members would be welcome.
I am also an (outsider/guest) member,and was in attendance at the AGM to support the club I have grown to love ,in my first year of fishing the Towy.I,ve met some lovely people and look forward to spending many nights on the water with them in the future
Wormining and spininng forever!! not a truer word spoken about the fly ruling the river towy well done for sticking up for it tpoons80. 2 me myself its greed!!
what about puting the price up for all fly fishing as you now have more of the water to fish AGAIN ? The way i see it in my eyes the club must have youth coming through to keep it going, can anyone tell me how many 10-16 yearolds who can fly fish compared to worm and spin?
Thank you for posting and for letting us know your views on the blog Jamie! All I can say is that at the next AGM those attending will be able to review the fishing arrangements at Crewel and vote to change the current ruling if they wish? I agree with you about the importance of youngsters coming through but I can't see why the worm or spinner is necessarily preferable? Fly fishing can be practised throughout the season other than in very high water so I would have thought that it would appeal to the younger generation too? As far as charging the fly fishermen more than the others then I'm afraid the club would suffer badly as I don't think many of us would fall for that! Turning the tables slightly perhaps it would be more realistic to have a single fee for all members regardless of whether they are local, visitors, fly or spinning or bait fishermen? The current differential between visitor and local fees in many cases is huge! Every trip to the river costs me personally £40 just in fuel alone and that cost is rising every week! I don't think either of these suggestions will ever be adopted though do you! Tight lines for the new season and keep your comments coming!
I was at the AGM and i voted for fly only when the marker is visiable. it is not that i am aganinst worming or spinning i can do all methods. i think that we all agree the importance of the youngsters coming through. i started fishing at aged 10 and started fly fishing at 12. as for charging the fly fishermen more we pay enough now. when i joined in 1988 locals paid about £10 and visitors paid £70 now it is £50 for locals and £100 for visitors. how many locals would pay this if it was the other way round and do a 190 miles round trip. i wish i had the river towy on my door step (FLY SPIN OR WORM)
I have been fishing Llangadog water as a guest since ’86 and fortunately have been successful with all methods; daytime spinning, worming, wet fly and dry fly, but my favoured method is the fly at night. It is a 400 mile round trip for me and although in my early days I fished just one night on many occasions, I now usually stop in a B&B for a few days. Over the years I have contributed quite a bit to the local economy and The Treasury in fuel duty and VAT. That is my choice. I agree we should all encourage the youngsters and women as well to fish. Fortunately there are several ‘safe’ places for youngsters to worm and spin, including the railway bridge, the opposite gravel bank by the car park, the cattle drink and all the way down the road bridge stretch from the top to the big tree. And now the new bank at Crewil if members agree.
Had I been at the AGM the vote wouldn’t have been unanimous as I would probably have abstained or suggested an alternative to try and keep everyone happy. I would have proposed/suggested that all methods can be used during the day from the new bank at Crewil, whatever the water height. But with the proviso that ALL anglers must be off the water by say three hours before sunset, to allow the pool to settle for night fishing. If the water is coloured there won’t be any night fishing anyway. Just a thought.
Also here’s more food for thought about permit fees, as I think a minority of local anglers don’t realise just how fortunate they are to have such a wonderful resource on their doorstep, offering the opportunity to catch wild sea trout and wild salmon everyday throughout the season for just £50 or whatever the cost is. It is probably the cheapest sewin/salmon fishing in the UK. I sometimes have to pay £40 per day, yes per day, (again my choice) just to fish for grayling in the winter. And there are some rivers where it costs £100/day or more just to catch a brace of pellet fed stocked rainbows. Llangadog guest members have been subsidising the local angers for many years and there wouldn’t be an Llangadog Angling club without them. So how about ALL members paying the same, just as anglers do at some other Towy Clubs, which don't make any distinction between locals or guests and have more water to fish. See below. Perhaps the LAL fee could be based on the current total income from all members divided by the number of members. Eg. If total income is £1500 and there are 150 members the annual fee would be £100, with similar concessions as other clubs. Obviously this would mean locals paying a little bit more and guests a little bit less.
Carmarthen & District
Adult £75
OAP £35
Young person (17 at date of issue) £35
Junior Free
Weekly £80
Day £30
Crosshands
Adults £80 plus joining fee £30,
Senior citizens £40
Students £40 plus joining fee £30,
Ladies £50 plus joining fee £30
Juveniles under 16 years £5.
Its not a very good idea that its only fly, not only cant everyone fly fish but most of the ones that do fly fish aren't even from the area. You should be supporting the locals and listening to their views much more than outsiders, it's our river, I was born here, so was teaspoons and woodall. This part of the river should be open to all methods of fishing, it should be fair to everyone. Worm and lure fishing does not affect the bed at all, in fact its probably good as it allows other species to come out from river banks and under rocks it also creates space for more biodiversity. Besides the only thing that's at the bottom is rocks and shitty snags. Please reconsider or there will more than likely be a loss in club members, by the sounds on the comments.
I have sympathy with many of the comments made here! There is one thing that I find uncomfortable though and that is the word 'outsider'! We are 'guests' or 'visitors' and I think that is how we should be referred to as please! Let's make the club 'inclusive' and not create 'divides' as it could get out of hand?
If Carmarthenshire Council, who I believe own the fishing rights on most of our water, gave it free of charge to LAL then we probably wouldn't be invited to fish the river anyway! The same with the farmer who owns Crewel - for years he sold the fishing rights to largely English anglers for monetary gain and has probably had a change of heart now because there aren't any Engish who want to pay for water with the poor catches and the credit crunch and all that!! I think the reality is that we live in a commercial world and in the UK a democratic one. That's why we pay more than local anglers and that's maybe why the rules were set for Crewel as they were because guests are allowed to attend and vote at the AGM! And yes most guests appear to be fly fishermen largely? Simple as that really! I disagree with Stueco about the worming business though! I have wormed in the past but there can be no doubt in my mind that it leaves much more harmful nylon and weights etc in the river than fly fishing does by far! I have seen many Swans and ducks with nylon with shot attached wrapped around their beaks and necks which can be fatal in some cases! True - fly fishing does result in line and flies being lost but mostly in trees and bushes which can be recovered and is less likely to be picked up by birds and wildlife.
Good stuff! Keep it coming but please refer to us as guests or your post won't get published!
You may be correct about the worming but as far as im concerned if that's what people want to do then they should be able to do it, after all they are paying to be on the river.Anyway you can worm and spin on the opposite side so whats the difference. Sorry guest but from what I can see hear fly fisherman over ride everyone else, which is not fair, so dont bother saying it is. Im not only saying this because I predominantly do worm because I also do fly. Most of the river is fly these days, something needs to be sorted im afraid. We need members, they mean money and the life of the Llangadog angling association.
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